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Conscious Conversations with Mmabatho Montse

A podcast produced by Solid Gold · Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality · 33 episodes · 2022-08-15 to 2025-11-28

Season 4 of Conscious Conversations unfolds as a living, transdisciplinary curriculum, weaving Africana Womanist eco-metaphysics, mythological studies, Black feminist geographies, Indigenous Knowledge Systems, and Futures Literacy. Each dialogue is a portal into learning as becoming—an initiation into memory, healing, and self-knowledge.

We begin with Prof. Monica Mody, whose work in decolonial and Indigenous epistemologies reframes education as initiation, where myth, dreams, and cycles of birth–death–rebirth act as sacred technologies of transformation. With Atava Garcia Swiecicki, we deepen this arc through Earth-rooted teachings, honouring plants, ancestral medicine, and ecological consciousness as archives of cultural and cellular repair.

In conversation with Malikeya Khantrece, we confront law, coloniality, and historical amnesia, reimagining reparations as spiritual and ancestral reckoning. Dr. Christy Garrison-Harrison traces how violence is inscribed onto the Black body and how ancestral work becomes resistance and reconstitution. With Mthuthu Ndebele, we turn to music as ancestral offering, and with Chad Zibelman, to frameworks of co-learning and relational accountability.

The season closes with Riel Miller on Futures Literacy, resonant with ponelopele—the Sotho-Tswana ethic of ethical foresight. Rather than prediction, it is a forward gaze rooted in ancestral wisdom, guiding us to live into uncertainty with clarity and presence.

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Episodes

Future's Literacy2025-11-28

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Riel Miller, futurist, economist, and pioneer of Futures Literacy, joins Mmabatho Montse to explore the ethical, philosophical, and deeply personal dimensions of anticipation. Together, they unpack how coloniality, productivity culture, and structural violence have distorted humanity’s relationship with time, imagination, and learning.The conversation journeys through Miller’s reflections on his global experiences, interrogating the arrogance of certainty and the seductive illusion of mastery over the future. They examine how Futures Literacy is not…

The Educated Self as Action-Oriented Praxis2025-11-14

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Dr. John Scott joins Mmabatho Montse to explore what it means to live education as a praxis of self-knowledge, action, and ethical transformation. Together, they move beyond schooling as a system of conformity and efficiency, instead reframing education as a deeply intuitive, embodied, and ancestral journey toward becoming. Drawing on insights from his decades-long work in diversity, equity, and cultural humility, Dr. Scott brings a nuanced lens to the conversation—rooted in Indigenous wisdom, narrative inquiry, and liberatory pedagogies such as…

Self Knowledge as Life's Teacher2025-10-31

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Mmabatho Montse is joined by educator, Mafole Sematlane for a rich dialogue on the role of education in restoring African identity, healing colonial trauma, and reweaving cultural wholeness. Drawing from his journey in Lesotho and over a decade of work in social transformation, Mafole introduces Afro-symbiosity, a paradigm rooted in Basotho values such as botho, khotso, and nala—as a framework for conflict resolution, leadership, and communal regeneration. Together, they explore how colonisation instilled a psychic captivity of fear and…

Community Empowerment, a tool for social education2025-10-20

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Mmabatho Montse speaks with Chad Zibelman, CEO of The Sonder Project, to explore how community empowerment can serve as a powerful vehicle for social education and global equity. With years of experience in international development, Chad brings grounded insight into the practicalities and ethical complexities of working across cultural and geographic boundaries. Together, they reflect on the significance of trust, collaboration, and dignity in development work, challenging extractive aid models in favor of community-led transformation. Chad shares…

Celebrating Culture through Music and Art2025-10-13

In this deeply resonant episode of Conscious Conversations, African folk musician and cultural practitioner Mthuthu Ndebele joins Mmabatho Montse for a dialogue on ancestral memory, creative embodiment, and the sacred labour of artistic becoming. Rooted in personal experience and spiritual conviction, Mthuthu reflects on his journey from Ulundi’s cultural heartbeat to becoming a vessel for intergenerational wisdom through sound.Their conversation explores how music functions not merely as artistic expression but as a living archive of ancestral presence—transmitting ecological consciousness,…

Histories that Touch the Body2025-10-06

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Mmabatho Montse is joined by Dr. Christy Garrison-Harrison, historian, educator, and womanist scholar—for a profound exploration of how histories linger in the body, shaping Black life through memory, resistance, and radical re-membering. Together, they delve into the ways colonialism, racial capitalism, and spatial segregation inscribe trauma across generations, while also giving rise to ancestral resilience and epistemic agency. Drawing on Black Feminist Geographies, Womanist historiography, and embodied pedagogy, the conversation reflects on how…

Law, Liberation, and Lived Experience2025-09-26

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Mmabatho Montse speaks with legal practitioner and founder of Narratives for Justice, Mali Khantrece, to explore how law, when rooted in lived experience and historical consciousness, becomes a tool for liberation and healing. Mali shares her journey into law as an act of resistance, using narrative justice and death penalty mitigation to humanize those silenced by systemic violence. Together, they unpack how intergenerational trauma, racialized poverty, and the criminal justice system converge to erase life stories, and how reclaiming these…

Earth as Teacher, Medicines as Memory2025-09-20

In this episode of Conscious Conversations, Mmabatho Montse speaks with herbalist, educator, and author Atava Garcia Swiecicki about ancestral medicine, chronic illness, and the Earth as a site of healing. Rooted in the traditions of curanderismo and Ubungoma, their conversation explores how plants, dreams, and ritual serve as portals to cultural memory and collective repair. Atava shares reflections from her own healing journey and her work supporting clients through autoimmune conditions, emphasising medicine not as extractive treatment, but as ancestral remembrance. Drawing from her book…

Myth, Dream, and Radical Remembering2025-09-12

We begin this season with Prof. Monica Mody, whose work in decolonial, Indigenous, and women of colour paradigms and epistemologies activates ancestral memory and symbolic imagination. Our conversation explores mythological studies as a transdisciplinary lens through which education is reframed as a process of initiation.
Rather than the transmission of information, education becomes an unfolding of dreams, stories, and birth–death–rebirth cycles—sacred technologies for spiritual and intellectual transformation. Together we trace how myth carries ancestral presence, unsettles linear notions…

Navigating Identity through Spirituality2024-06-04

In this episode of Conscious Conversations with my sister Clara, we delved into the resilience required to live as a Black woman, committed to discovering her true identity and living her truth. This journey, often solitary, demands courage and a steadfast commitment to one's values. Yet, it is through this journey that we uncover the abundance and richness that the Divine offers.

Imagining a New Earth2024-05-28

In this conversation, Austen Smith and I explore ways to regain our creative energy and use our imagination to project our way into the reality we desire for ourselves and all Black communities. By reclaiming our ancestral wisdom, resilience, and veneration for the Earth, we can harness this creative force. The radical imagination entails stepping outside the confines of the now and into the expansiveness of what could be. It has been described as the ability to dream of possible futures and bring these possibilities back to the present to drive social transformation.

Recovery, Healing & Restoration in Black Communities2024-05-22

Black, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC) have faced disproportionate levels of violence from state institutions, the persistent legacies of slavery and segregation, and economic injustice and displacement. For centuries, the cognitive, spiritual, emotional, and physical resources of BIPOC communities have been disproportionately depleted due to structural anti-Black racism and White supremacy.

In this conversation, Rev. Diane Ford-Dessables and I reflect on hopes for collective recovery and restoration for Black communities. I continue to ask: what do freedom and liberation mean to…

Settler Coloniality, Decolonising Space, Imagining New Futures2024-05-14

Settler colonialism in urban and rural landscapes in Africa has not only meant dispossession of land; it is also an ongoing system of power-use that has sought to homogenise, sterilise and decontextualise space and place. This linear way of thinking perpetuates the repression and genocide of peoples, and the exploitation of cultures, land and resources. It continues to alienate non-White people from their genealogical relations with nature and the non-visible world. While many African countries have enjoyed independence for decades, the quest for development, urbanisation, modernisation and…

The Path of Fearlessness, Healing and Liberation2024-04-29

Societies across the globe are built on a dominant culture – an oppressive, violent, hurtful, exploitative and destructive fear-based culture that thrives on inequalities in terms of gender, race, class and income. Dominance as a cultural construct has for centuries had a strong presence in institutions, influencing the socio-political agenda and landscape of societies. Fear as a concept, especially in relation to its opposite – love, is one of the most important and under-researched concepts of our time. Love is said to be a pattern that is life giving, regenerative, healthy and…

Afro/ Black Indigeneity & Sovereignty2024-04-16

In seeking to have a deep understanding of indigenous-Black identities, human and non-human, one cannot help but think about the ramifications and the intersections of anti-Black racism, slavery, gender inequality, colonialism, erasure, of history, fractured identities, sovereignty, land dispossession and violence. These issues are entangled with the spiritual, social, political and economic embodiments and structures of the lives of Black people on the African continent and in the African diaspora, and are connected to one’s sense of place and displacement, appropriation and recovery,…

The Great Invitation and the Gift2024-04-09

The world has been carved up by the great powers which have spiritually and economically dominated people, pushing them to strive for national dignity and nationhood. Ancestral wisdom and customs and traditional economics have been disrupted, and human energy and skills have been harnessed for the advantage of the conquerors and the disadvantage of the natural world. There are still people in the world today who regard anti-Black racism and White supremacy as race problems, a simple clash between Black and White. The world's wealthy few and their governments have promoted this narrative…

Unlearning, Learning, New Pathways2024-04-02

Our vision for Season 3 is centred around people of colour in Africa and the Diaspora. People of colour continue to suffer from the effects of structural racism and White supremacy. This structural discrimination and the subsequent stigmatisation have inflicted multiple traumas on people of colour that have developed into degenerative, fear-based ways of existing, causing a disconnection between relatives, community, the land and ancestral wisdom.

In this season’s Conscious Conversations, we hope to give listeners tools to increase their self-awareness, shift the beliefs they hold about…

African cultural heritage and digitisation2023-04-28

The African continent is rich with diverse cultures, indigenous knowledge systems, and technologies. Our culture involves our social behaviour and norms, our languages, knowledge, beliefs, traditions, arts, capacities, and habits.
Over decades, we have seen the deliberate alienation and marginalization of African cultural values and traditions by the designs of colonialism and apartheid, which have resulted in the misrepresentation and disorientation of some of the most fundamental aspects of our African culture. In an era of rapidly changing technologies digital solutions become critical…

An African view: Agriculture & Spirituality2023-04-21

African people were uprooted from their long-standing indigenous agricultural way of life which involved maintaining a harmonious relationship between communities, nature, and traditional religious practices. These practices involved ceremonies, festivals, and rituals in alignment with the cycles of the seasons. Embodied, enacted, and reinforced in these traditions were sacred values communicated between communities and mother earth. The community rituals often included agricultural rituals designed to persuade the gods and ancestors to deliver rains, and successful harvests, and to guarantee…

Finding alignment through Astrology2023-04-14

Astrology in Africa, as in other societies, has for many years been considered a form of divination that involves forecasting earthly and human events through the observation and interpretation of the Sun, the Moon, the fixed stars, and other planets. According to ancient practices originating from Mesopotamia, astrology shaped the perceptions and particular practices of society; informing their understanding and experiences of the world.
Astrology has for many centuries been considered an important form of intelligence, helping humanity know the truth, explaining cosmological alignments…

Reframing and reclaiming black narratives in the media2023-04-07

African people have for many years lived having to suppress who they were, whether it be through the expression of their languages, traditions (enforcement of Christianity), culture (dance, song, style)... simply, their way of Being.
There exist deep connections between Black South Africans and Americans because of our shared long history of racial segregation and white supremacy. Where entire societies were structured against the Black community, which meant no economic, social, or cultural power. The cultural legacies of this history have influenced how the stories of black people have…

Healing through family constellations2023-03-31

Family constellations as an area of research can be found in modern psychology and in the indigenous ancestral reverence practices of the Nguni people. Family constellations is therapy based on the belief that energy, both negative and positive, can be found in familial bonds and can manifest as patterns of mental health concerns, illness, and potentially destructive behaviours within families. In this conversation, we speak to Ryan Klette about how constellations can be applied as a key intervention in resolving issues around identity crisises, anxiety, and depression in individuals and…

The nexus between African family structures & spirituality2023-03-24

Dr Baba Buntu is a Community Scholar and Decolonial Practitioner. He is also the founding director of eBukhosini Solutions, a people-centred company specializing in African-Centered Education. As a Pan-African educator, writer, researcher, mentor and counsellor, Baba Buntu has more than 30 years of experience in conceptualizing and implementing programs on cultural literacy, social/epistemic justice, innovative entrepreneurship, youth empowerment and indigenous knowledge – particularly suited for African applicability.
Dr Buntu’s areas of expertise include research, training facilitation,…

Reframing Education for the African Context2023-03-17

Quality education is said to promise highly developed and empowered individuals who can explore the peculiarities of their environment to obtain expertise and knowledge that will lead to innovation and advancement within a society. The word education is often referred to in the context of deliberate effort to equip the unequipped with facts, knowledge, skills and competencies that will enable them to function as adults in a specific society.
For decades, education in Africa has been disseminated through different colonial entities, such as missionaries, merchants, and governments - each with…

Africa - the ties that bind us2023-03-10

African culture is vast, vibrant and colourful. Africans are known for their warmth, vibrant culture, traditions, religions, food, art, dance, and music among many things. While it has been decades since African countries gained their independence from colonial rule and oppression, the legacies of colonisation continue to permeate society through different institutions and economic structures, which have had a major role in the unprogressive and unproductive ways and forms of being African people have taken up.
In this conversation, we speak to Thebe Ikalafeng about the ties that continue to…

Motherhood, singlehood and love2022-10-07

Authenticity: the courage to be yourself.

In this conversation, we talk about embracing motherhood, singlehood and love. How we can be happy in our individuality rather than be stuffed into a predefined mould?

Gomo Manche shares her experiences around staying grounded and authentic and honouring herself as a woman.

Healing Your Inner Child2022-09-30

Reparenting Your Inner Child.

In this conversation we speak about healing the inner child, and how this work can be used to address the roots of internal conflict and struggle, unmet needs from childhood and the attachment wounds developed over time, and how these can be transformed into positive and productive behaviours helping us to thrive in our lives.

Touch therapy, a healing tool2022-09-23

A touch of God is a natural therapy applied to heal the body, mind and spirit.

In this conversation, we speak to Matthew Rademan, founder of Kahe Hands Massage Studios.

Kahe Hands apply a Hawaiian healing approach to touch therapy which distinctively focuses on and recognises the inherent integrity of the whole person, facilitating healing for the mind, body, and spirit.

The Heart of Africa2022-09-16

In this conversation, we speak to Bokka du Toit about Africa, its humility and wisdom.

Bokka has spent decades of his life in film production, doing design work and building sacred temples in Africa. Through his spiritual journey, he has learned about African indigenous knowledge and spirituality, which is enriched by his long mentoring relationship with Baba Credo Mutwa.

Oneness2022-09-09

Finding the meaning of connectedness through Oneness.

In this conversation, we speak to QuingRa, founder of Eanna Temple of Light and Wisdom.

We chat about the power of Oneness to gain insight into collective consciousness and how understanding principles of oneness can help us to live more profoundly in good health. Helping us see that everything in life is connected - our creativity and our challenges.

Umsamo - the family tree2022-09-02

The soul of a family tree: Ancestors.

In this conversation, we speak to Neo Mavuso Magabane, a strategy management consultant and Ngaka.

We speak to Neo about Umsamo, a sacred place within a home where families and individuals communicate with their ancestors, an anchor for the bloodline, a place where everyone within the family has a place, a place of belonging.

Mindfulness2022-08-19

How mindfulness can positively influence the quality of your life.

In this conversation, we speak to Channelie van Staden, a spiritual guide and entrepreneur, about mindfulness.

She speaks to us about the opportunity mindfulness provides us with, an opportunity to be aware, to be present, to pay attention, and that paying attention intentionally influences the nature of our life experiences...

Values2022-08-15

Understanding your personal values helps you live an authentic, happy life.

In this conversation, we speak to Lerato Gunguluza, a published author, life coach and entrepreneur about the importance of knowing and understanding our personal values in our pursuit for authentic and happier lives.

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